what listeners are SAYING …

“your tone, the mood of intimacy and openness that you convey is completely compelling”


“ I LOVE the metaphor of the peaks/mountains and what you said about the way down, finding our way and what that looks like versus what we thought it would look like”

“I just heard the first episode of your podcast ... and I love it so much!”

“Everyone would be lucky to have had a spontaneous find of not just a friend but someone who could share such a great adventure ... in doing the hike but then also the podcast”

 “your conversations just flowed so beautifully ... it’s as if each podcast you guys accomplish, there’s a parallel with climbing another mountain”

“you both keep the listener wanting to hear more ...”

“you are both so articulate, and so perfect together as friends and conversationalists”